Guys, this news story confirms my previous comments about not using cameras (whether video cam, cell phone, digital, etc.) when checking out babes. The guy in this crime in Minnesota was seen video taping, and if he is or was caught there would be evidence of his actions.
However, more significant to this story, in my opinion, is that the reporter gives the block on which this guy was doing his spying.
http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=876226&catid=396
With the block being listed, and the photo of the hottie at the top of the story, this also gives total creep guys a more specific idea of where some college babes are. The reporter should have left the street name out of the mix.
But again, had the guy the authorities are looking for chose to use a camera. Otherwise, he could have appeared to be calmly walking down the street without incident. Let's hope they catch him!
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Monday, October 11, 2010
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
There's gold in them thar hills.......
J. C. writes:
“You were so right about playing a hunch if you can. I have gone to (withheld) Beach several times over the years, and was aware that some of the (babes) change to and from bathing suits in a secluded location very near the entrance to the showers. For years I sat back and wished there was a way to see in there, since it is actually an outdoor location, but the wooden fence surrounding is about 8 feet tall.
After I listened to your book, I went to that beach with a small group of guys and girls a couple of Saturdays ago. While waiting outside of the girls’ shower area, I noticed that there is a nearby hill and appeared to be a path going up toward the top. I had not paid attention to that before. On my own, I went back the next day (a Sunday), and took an innocent walk up on that hill with my backpack in place. Sure enough, it was not busy at all, since everyone was at the beach part. I ducked down behind a couple of trees and realized that with my binoculars I could see into some of the open area just outside of the women’s showers. Sure enough, I saw one (babe) walking out topless and another who changed and went naked, even though I only saw her from behind and got a butt view. She was very hot looking!
Per your advice, I only stayed about 10 minutes, and got those 2 good looks. It appears to be park property and not heavily supervised. I looked around to be sure there were no cameras or surveillance where I was, and I didn’t see anything. I believe that I appeared to be a guy taking a short hike up the hill and back. I could see where it could be suspicious if I spent hours up there, so I know that’s not a good idea. (Tempting as it is.)
I need your expertise. I know you have done some outdoor spying, but I also know how you caution others. I would like to go back on the hot days and stay there for maybe 15 minutes or so and see what I can. What do you suggest?”
First, J.C., I used your initials and took out your location, which I don’t usually do. As incredible as it may seem, I’m pretty sure I have been to that area in the past. It’s true there are some hotties in that area due to nearby college campuses, so I understand the urgency for you. Like you, I especially love checking out the babes in the college age group.
It is difficult for me to suggest continuing to do this, however, since I don’t have enough of a grip on the situation. But I do think your approach of only a few minutes is a good one. It shows me you listened to the book and heeded the advice. I can see where it would be tempting to set up shop and spend hours in the trees waiting for hotties to come out of the shower and/or change clothes thinking there is total privacy.
Here is my “if it were me” answer, but do so at your own risk. I would go mid-to-late afternoon on a busy day, and appear to have just gone to the men’s room and to be waiting for others. My backpack would be on and I’d be ready to go. When I would see a couple of hotties heading into the shower area, I would then look at my watch and look aggravated, as if I am waiting for others. Then I would shrug my shoulders as if I’m going to leave, and start walking. This way, no one will think anything of your walking away by yourself. I would head up the hill to those trees within the next few minutes and then hope to see those babes when they come out of the shower. (You would have a better idea of how much time you need to get to your spot, so plan accordingly.) I agree that you should keep it to a few minutes, and as tough as it is to do so, only once a day maximum. You don’t want people to see you there all of the time doing the same thing.
Also, my suggestion is to keep this a secret. You may think it’s no big deal to invite a friend to come along, but it would be. Seeing two guys go off and come back like that might seem unusual and could arouse suspicion. Plus, if you were to be caught, you would not want anyone else to know that you really were doing this.
I would do things such as have a CD player in my backpack, and then carry a loose CD that I didn’t need and I would roll it in the dirt. I’m sure you are asking what this has to do with spying on babes. Plenty. When you do leave your viewing spot a few minutes later (and hopefully with success), I would be walking out toward the pathway holding my “dirty” CD and looking upset as if it rolled down the path and was ruined. It is this type of move that can remove suspicion. Hopefully if anyone questions you, they would not check and find that you have binoculars with you. Yet, they can’t prove where you used them.
This is also why you should not have or use a camera. As I have stated numerous times already, you must not have any evidence of what you saw.
Let me know if you go ahead with this, and how it turns out. I will not publish any location or personal details. Good find, by the way. Maybe I’ll see you there one of these days!
NOTE: Readers and listeners to "Total Creep - A Guys' Guide" are welcome to e-mail me with questions and comments at ic.london at live.com. Let me know if you wish kept private.
“You were so right about playing a hunch if you can. I have gone to (withheld) Beach several times over the years, and was aware that some of the (babes) change to and from bathing suits in a secluded location very near the entrance to the showers. For years I sat back and wished there was a way to see in there, since it is actually an outdoor location, but the wooden fence surrounding is about 8 feet tall.
After I listened to your book, I went to that beach with a small group of guys and girls a couple of Saturdays ago. While waiting outside of the girls’ shower area, I noticed that there is a nearby hill and appeared to be a path going up toward the top. I had not paid attention to that before. On my own, I went back the next day (a Sunday), and took an innocent walk up on that hill with my backpack in place. Sure enough, it was not busy at all, since everyone was at the beach part. I ducked down behind a couple of trees and realized that with my binoculars I could see into some of the open area just outside of the women’s showers. Sure enough, I saw one (babe) walking out topless and another who changed and went naked, even though I only saw her from behind and got a butt view. She was very hot looking!
Per your advice, I only stayed about 10 minutes, and got those 2 good looks. It appears to be park property and not heavily supervised. I looked around to be sure there were no cameras or surveillance where I was, and I didn’t see anything. I believe that I appeared to be a guy taking a short hike up the hill and back. I could see where it could be suspicious if I spent hours up there, so I know that’s not a good idea. (Tempting as it is.)
I need your expertise. I know you have done some outdoor spying, but I also know how you caution others. I would like to go back on the hot days and stay there for maybe 15 minutes or so and see what I can. What do you suggest?”
First, J.C., I used your initials and took out your location, which I don’t usually do. As incredible as it may seem, I’m pretty sure I have been to that area in the past. It’s true there are some hotties in that area due to nearby college campuses, so I understand the urgency for you. Like you, I especially love checking out the babes in the college age group.
It is difficult for me to suggest continuing to do this, however, since I don’t have enough of a grip on the situation. But I do think your approach of only a few minutes is a good one. It shows me you listened to the book and heeded the advice. I can see where it would be tempting to set up shop and spend hours in the trees waiting for hotties to come out of the shower and/or change clothes thinking there is total privacy.
Here is my “if it were me” answer, but do so at your own risk. I would go mid-to-late afternoon on a busy day, and appear to have just gone to the men’s room and to be waiting for others. My backpack would be on and I’d be ready to go. When I would see a couple of hotties heading into the shower area, I would then look at my watch and look aggravated, as if I am waiting for others. Then I would shrug my shoulders as if I’m going to leave, and start walking. This way, no one will think anything of your walking away by yourself. I would head up the hill to those trees within the next few minutes and then hope to see those babes when they come out of the shower. (You would have a better idea of how much time you need to get to your spot, so plan accordingly.) I agree that you should keep it to a few minutes, and as tough as it is to do so, only once a day maximum. You don’t want people to see you there all of the time doing the same thing.
Also, my suggestion is to keep this a secret. You may think it’s no big deal to invite a friend to come along, but it would be. Seeing two guys go off and come back like that might seem unusual and could arouse suspicion. Plus, if you were to be caught, you would not want anyone else to know that you really were doing this.
I would do things such as have a CD player in my backpack, and then carry a loose CD that I didn’t need and I would roll it in the dirt. I’m sure you are asking what this has to do with spying on babes. Plenty. When you do leave your viewing spot a few minutes later (and hopefully with success), I would be walking out toward the pathway holding my “dirty” CD and looking upset as if it rolled down the path and was ruined. It is this type of move that can remove suspicion. Hopefully if anyone questions you, they would not check and find that you have binoculars with you. Yet, they can’t prove where you used them.
This is also why you should not have or use a camera. As I have stated numerous times already, you must not have any evidence of what you saw.
Let me know if you go ahead with this, and how it turns out. I will not publish any location or personal details. Good find, by the way. Maybe I’ll see you there one of these days!
NOTE: Readers and listeners to "Total Creep - A Guys' Guide" are welcome to e-mail me with questions and comments at ic.london at live.com. Let me know if you wish kept private.
Sunday, December 6, 2009
Why sexting "laws" need to be re-defined
Way too many people, mostly parents and women over 30, need to rethink punishing teens for sexting, and especially the implications it can have long term.
First of all, Sexting is really use of modern technology to do something that has been going on for years. To hear some people tell it, no one ever heard of sending partially or fully naked photos of themselves to girls or guys until cell phones came with cameras. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I can't help but believe that some of the moms and older women who are offended now were "victims" of this 20 to 30 years ago. People seem to forget the wonderful invention of the "instant" camera years ago. You could take a photo and within seconds it came out of your camera and you had your snapshot. No waiting for a roll of film to finish and rewind to be taken to a retailer for development. (!!)
There it was. The perfect means for girls to take partially or fully naked photos of themselves, whether straight down or in the mirror, just like they do now. Or let the boyfriend take it. Within a few seconds, they had a photo to give to a boyfriend. Maybe even multiple photos. No one would find out. And, of course, the boyfriend then had the choice of keeping the photo all for himself to enjoy, or sharing by showing it to other guys.
Before that, you took your chances. I knew of one guy who worked in a camera store (that would develop film for customers) who got a hold of some nude photos of a babe in the neighborhood she actually brought in to have developed.
Heck, I still joke privately with a longtime friend about him showing me topless pics of a babe he was seeing on the side back in the 80's. I also recall visiting a couple of dorm rooms in the 80's and guys reaching into the "secret desk drawer" to share some mighty fine photos of their college conquests. Face it, I can't have been the only guy to know and know of guys who used to do this and/or benefit from instant cameras in this same way.
The only difference with Sexting is that the technology makes it easier for guys to SEND the photos to their friends. However, based on the laws and regulations, which were written BEFORE cell phone cameras made this happen, guys and girls are now easily caught with evidence.
Girls are caught with "evidence" because of sending pics of their bodies to guys. Guys who share via cell phone are caught with "evidence" because of the receiving and sending. Now, this seems to be a prominent issue.
My point is that nude photos of teen "friends" are such a not a new thing, as many of the parents and others would have you believe. The only thing that has changed is that the modern means of distribution allows teens to be "caught" much more easily than in the past.
In that respect, it was much easier for guys years ago, even if they weren't able to easily share these photos with other guys. Personally, I took the selfish route, and that is why I still recommend that (selfish route) for guys.
I didn't take any photos of the girls I saw naked. While I had none to share with my friends, there was no way I could get caught with evidence of what I had seen. There were a few times I had guy friends over and had them bring their binoculars so they could see some girls along with me, but again, there was no evidence.
In my book (Total Creep - A Guy's Guide, available via www.TotalCreep.com) I wrote about how to do this. One of my favorite stories from when I was in high school was about a girl a year younger (she was a junior while I was a senior) who lived in the next building over from me. I knew her and she was really cute, but she had a boyfriend. In fact, I knew him too.
There were a few instances when I would see her stark naked in her bedroom using my binoculars. I'm pretty sure I saw more of her than her boyfriend ever did, at least in her apartment. But, so what, I wasn't able to share any photos with my friends. I also never got into trouble, and she never knew what I saw. (The funny part of the story is that when the guy realized I was a neighbor he asked if I knew her, and I said "I'm familiar with her". If he only knew!) I developed many of my spying techniques using binoculars from my parents' apartment windows, and would watch several high school and college babes. The difference is I never got caught, and never distributed any photos or "evidence" of what I saw.
Sexual things take place at parties involving high school students these days that didn't happen when I was growing up. Guys' pants come down in the dark, girls tops come up. But unless a parent or adult supervisor finds out, or a girl complains to an adult, these activities go on unreported and with no consequences.
In other words, it is so much easier for guys to enjoy seeing classmates and schoolmate girls partially or fully naked than it ever was when I was growing up. But there have always been opportunities, and that percentage of girls willing to show breasts or better to the guys.
For that matter, just yesterday I came across this story written by a female student at Purdue, in which she reveals she is ready to share naked pics of guy friends. Technically, she is inviting legal trouble, and her name and e-mail address are right there:
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Section/section_id/5/?module=article&story_id=19045
Don't get me wrong. I am not saying it was the same for me to see unsuspecting teen girls naked using binoculars as the girls who send naked photos of themselves voluntarily. However, girls who were violated in a sense by me invading their privacy had no idea of what happened, compared with girls who are willingly sending out nude photos, even if intended for confidence.
Teen boys are not sex offenders or pornographers and shouldn't be treated as such. If they didn't have access to those photos, they wouldn't do this. By now, teen girls know the consequences of these photos getting out.
That doesn't make it right, but it shouldn't mean they are subject to punishment or arrest. In my opinion, teen guys seeing teen babes naked should not be placed in the same category as an adult male having photos of a 16 year old. This is not sex. Many 15, 16, and 17 year olds are fully developed and have a woman's body. Looking is not the same as touching.
To the moms and women over 35 who have problems with Sexting, I understand the concerns. However, stopping cell phone distribution of photos doesn't stop the activities at parties, girls flashing a group of guys, spring break, wet t-shirt contests, and for that matter, digital cameras that hold photos until such time as they are easily deleted. I can tell you that more and more high school and college guys are aware of the risks of sexting, and already have other means to privately share photos of girlfriends and/or classmates with their friends.
Meanwhile, I'm going to continue spying with binoculars and using my techniques while in public to check out the babes down shirts, up skirts, down jeans, and any other glances I can see. Without any evidence. No harm, no foul.
As for Sexting, the punishment should be different than that for a sex offender or worse. Sending photos to others is not the same as a rape or sex crime. It's up to the girls not to send these photos, or for guys to find other ways to enjoy them without evidence. That will eliminate these Sexting issues once and for all!
First of all, Sexting is really use of modern technology to do something that has been going on for years. To hear some people tell it, no one ever heard of sending partially or fully naked photos of themselves to girls or guys until cell phones came with cameras. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I can't help but believe that some of the moms and older women who are offended now were "victims" of this 20 to 30 years ago. People seem to forget the wonderful invention of the "instant" camera years ago. You could take a photo and within seconds it came out of your camera and you had your snapshot. No waiting for a roll of film to finish and rewind to be taken to a retailer for development. (!!)
There it was. The perfect means for girls to take partially or fully naked photos of themselves, whether straight down or in the mirror, just like they do now. Or let the boyfriend take it. Within a few seconds, they had a photo to give to a boyfriend. Maybe even multiple photos. No one would find out. And, of course, the boyfriend then had the choice of keeping the photo all for himself to enjoy, or sharing by showing it to other guys.
Before that, you took your chances. I knew of one guy who worked in a camera store (that would develop film for customers) who got a hold of some nude photos of a babe in the neighborhood she actually brought in to have developed.
Heck, I still joke privately with a longtime friend about him showing me topless pics of a babe he was seeing on the side back in the 80's. I also recall visiting a couple of dorm rooms in the 80's and guys reaching into the "secret desk drawer" to share some mighty fine photos of their college conquests. Face it, I can't have been the only guy to know and know of guys who used to do this and/or benefit from instant cameras in this same way.
The only difference with Sexting is that the technology makes it easier for guys to SEND the photos to their friends. However, based on the laws and regulations, which were written BEFORE cell phone cameras made this happen, guys and girls are now easily caught with evidence.
Girls are caught with "evidence" because of sending pics of their bodies to guys. Guys who share via cell phone are caught with "evidence" because of the receiving and sending. Now, this seems to be a prominent issue.
My point is that nude photos of teen "friends" are such a not a new thing, as many of the parents and others would have you believe. The only thing that has changed is that the modern means of distribution allows teens to be "caught" much more easily than in the past.
In that respect, it was much easier for guys years ago, even if they weren't able to easily share these photos with other guys. Personally, I took the selfish route, and that is why I still recommend that (selfish route) for guys.
I didn't take any photos of the girls I saw naked. While I had none to share with my friends, there was no way I could get caught with evidence of what I had seen. There were a few times I had guy friends over and had them bring their binoculars so they could see some girls along with me, but again, there was no evidence.
In my book (Total Creep - A Guy's Guide, available via www.TotalCreep.com) I wrote about how to do this. One of my favorite stories from when I was in high school was about a girl a year younger (she was a junior while I was a senior) who lived in the next building over from me. I knew her and she was really cute, but she had a boyfriend. In fact, I knew him too.
There were a few instances when I would see her stark naked in her bedroom using my binoculars. I'm pretty sure I saw more of her than her boyfriend ever did, at least in her apartment. But, so what, I wasn't able to share any photos with my friends. I also never got into trouble, and she never knew what I saw. (The funny part of the story is that when the guy realized I was a neighbor he asked if I knew her, and I said "I'm familiar with her". If he only knew!) I developed many of my spying techniques using binoculars from my parents' apartment windows, and would watch several high school and college babes. The difference is I never got caught, and never distributed any photos or "evidence" of what I saw.
Sexual things take place at parties involving high school students these days that didn't happen when I was growing up. Guys' pants come down in the dark, girls tops come up. But unless a parent or adult supervisor finds out, or a girl complains to an adult, these activities go on unreported and with no consequences.
In other words, it is so much easier for guys to enjoy seeing classmates and schoolmate girls partially or fully naked than it ever was when I was growing up. But there have always been opportunities, and that percentage of girls willing to show breasts or better to the guys.
For that matter, just yesterday I came across this story written by a female student at Purdue, in which she reveals she is ready to share naked pics of guy friends. Technically, she is inviting legal trouble, and her name and e-mail address are right there:
http://www.purdueexponent.org/index.php/module/Section/section_id/5/?module=article&story_id=19045
Don't get me wrong. I am not saying it was the same for me to see unsuspecting teen girls naked using binoculars as the girls who send naked photos of themselves voluntarily. However, girls who were violated in a sense by me invading their privacy had no idea of what happened, compared with girls who are willingly sending out nude photos, even if intended for confidence.
Teen boys are not sex offenders or pornographers and shouldn't be treated as such. If they didn't have access to those photos, they wouldn't do this. By now, teen girls know the consequences of these photos getting out.
That doesn't make it right, but it shouldn't mean they are subject to punishment or arrest. In my opinion, teen guys seeing teen babes naked should not be placed in the same category as an adult male having photos of a 16 year old. This is not sex. Many 15, 16, and 17 year olds are fully developed and have a woman's body. Looking is not the same as touching.
To the moms and women over 35 who have problems with Sexting, I understand the concerns. However, stopping cell phone distribution of photos doesn't stop the activities at parties, girls flashing a group of guys, spring break, wet t-shirt contests, and for that matter, digital cameras that hold photos until such time as they are easily deleted. I can tell you that more and more high school and college guys are aware of the risks of sexting, and already have other means to privately share photos of girlfriends and/or classmates with their friends.
Meanwhile, I'm going to continue spying with binoculars and using my techniques while in public to check out the babes down shirts, up skirts, down jeans, and any other glances I can see. Without any evidence. No harm, no foul.
As for Sexting, the punishment should be different than that for a sex offender or worse. Sending photos to others is not the same as a rape or sex crime. It's up to the girls not to send these photos, or for guys to find other ways to enjoy them without evidence. That will eliminate these Sexting issues once and for all!
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